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Ambivalence

I've been lurking around on this site for a few weeks now and finally decided to post something I haven't seen a lot of discussion about. Perhaps it's not an ADHD symptom itself, but the result of the feeling of being overwhelmed.

The back story...

Typical hyperfocused by my ADHD girlfriend beginning two-and-a-half years ago. Wonderful stuff. She told me early on that she was ADD, but I believe it was a self-diagnosis. I read a good bit about it and knew the relationship would have its difficulties, but what relationship doesn't, I thought. One day, six months into the relationship, and totally out of the blue, she asks, "If we were to break up, could we still be friends?" I freaked out! What a strange question to ask six months into a relationship that had had NO real problems and in which I thought we were both happy as could be! At the time, I had no idea about the hyperfocus followed by distraction. She was alarmed at my response and reassured me that she was just asking a hypothetical question. Obviously, I thought differently since I can remember that moment like it was yesterday!

Fast forward to January of this year (2011), a year and a half later. I tell her we need counseling because I can't take being ignored, feeling unwanted and alone, etc. any longer. If we are to survive, we need help. (Let me interject here that we are lesbians. I only say that because we don't have the Mars/Venus dynamic that sometimes blurs communication issues. When we're "on" we both communicate very well, in touch with and able to express our feelings. I would say that I am more than she is, but still, it was okay.)

We were in couples therapy (once a week) for three months, and I thought, were doing pretty well... actually had a wonderful four-day weekend at the lake right before Memorial Day, complete with talking, relaxing (as much as she is able) and affection. She had also started seeing a well-respected ADHD psychiatrist to get her medication on track. Four days later, out of the blue, she tells me she wants a break from the relationship. She won't say why, she barely talked to me for about two weeks. I was devastated, feeling totally blindsided by the sudden shift. 

During this time, I'm basically begging for understanding... what happened? what did I do? what is going on? what are you feeling? Over and over and over her answer was "I don't know." I can't tell you how maddening that is for someone to be on the verge of throwing away a relationship and the only answer you can get is "I don't know."

Immediately prior to the request for a break (like a week before), she had switched from Strattera to Adderall. She also had a couple of life issues (a nephew who lived with her who was not doing well in school and she was trying to help, as well as an uncle who was dying) going on that were overwhelming her. However, I and the couples counselor both felt these issues had been a point of hyperfocus for her during this time. She'd mentioned the uncle to me maybe twice in our whole relationship and never in a way that made him sound like they were bonded, then suddenly, while she never seemed to have time for me, she was making nine-hour round trips every weekend+ to tend to him. 

So where we are now... I bought and have almost finished Melissa's book, "The ADHD Effect on Marriage." Even though we are officially "broken up," there have been talks of a reconciliation. I've made it clear that I will not re-enter the relationship we had, and that I do not expect her to be "changed" if we come back together, only that I expect her to work with me on changing our relationship for the better so that we both get what we need. The advice in Melissa's book has been very helpful in my letting go of anger, in working toward being the person I want to be... with her or without her.

And so, to finally get to my point... she says she still loves me, but still just doesn't know what she wants. I don't want to be naive and keep hanging around where I'm not wanted, but this ambivalence sends such mixed signals. I start doubting the reality of everything she says... she loves me, I've done nothing really wrong in the relationship (she even told my friends on Facebook that I've done more than most people and put up with more than most people would have and that she needs to work on herself.), but she doesn't know what she wants?! 

Do any of you experience this maddening ambivalence, especially on major issues of life? Even the therapist has told her it's frustrating to hear "I don't know" over and over. It seems to bring any kind of productive communication to a grinding halt. 

Any thoughts on this being an ADHD symptom or being a reaction to feeling chronically overwhelmed? (Not proofing this, so I hope it makes sense. :)

Comments

ADD/overwhelm...

Hi Logicalinks,

Wow.  Seems like there is so much going on that there's no way to know for sure right now. 

But...  the hyperfocus and sudden withdrawal sound familiar.  That's how I was in ALL of my relationships.  The most intense was when I was in college.  I started dating a boy, thought he was The One.  thought we'd get married.... met another boy in summer school thought he was awesome, but still thought Boy One was it  for me until one day I realized I had actually been dating Summer School boy...  so I broke up with Boy one.  Then 6 months into that relationship suddenly I got this awful feeling that i'd made a huge mistake and that Summer School Boy was NOT right for me.  It was very sudden and intense, this feeling of 'oh no!!! this is totally wrong!"  so i broke up with him and went back to Boy One.  Long story short, I kept going back and forth breaking up and reuniting with the two of them for 2 years.  It was miserable for us all.  The same thing happened when I met my husband.  After 6 months of dating I felt that feeling again.  We didn't break up, but it was a miserable time.

As for the problems on top of it all, the uncle etc....  who knows?  Is she telling the truth?  are her lengthy trips really to see the uncle?  You can't drive yourself nuts trying to figure it out if she won't tell you.  BUT  what you CAN do is be strong and let her know that you're not going to take any bull$#!t.  What woke me up was my partner basically saying, "Frankly, my dear I don't give a damn." when I was going back and forth over whether or not he was right for me and whether or not I was going to stay.  You have to get to that place and mean it.  SHE is responsible for managing her ADD, but you need to set your boundaries early on.  If you are going to stay with her long term and if either of you want to have a child etc.  you need to set boundaries.

good luck

Thanks for taking the time to

Thanks for taking the time to respond, Ellamenno and Hermie40. I do believe she is telling the truth about the uncle. Lying hasn't been an issue in our relationship. As a matter of fact, compared to some descriptions of spouses here, we've treated each other very respectfully, but we just felt more like roommates than partners after a time. That's not what I want out of a relationship. I want intimacy, to trust the desire to have a future together, to not worry about how her impulsivity leaves me out of the decision-making process and yet impacts both of us, etc.

She knows that she will lose me if she doesn't make a decision soon about how to proceed, but she just seems "stuck." Perhaps it's her passive way of letting me go for good, then again, perhaps she really doesn't know. Either way, it has me in limbo as well.... not wanting to stay when it's time to go, but not wanting to give up on her either. I just wish I could say I didn't love her and could walk away easily. Unfortunately, that's not the case.

Sigh.

(I don't know why my name is showing up below this. I've tried to edit it out. Anyone know why this is happening and how to delete it?)

Hi. Welcome to the site. Im

Hi. Welcome to the site. Im sorry you have reached this painful point, but there is much to be learned here and plnety of hope since your girlfriend seems to be willing to try to get her sysmptoms under control.

"Chronically overwhelmed" is the best description I've heard yet regarding what ADHD seems to do to a person. ( Im the nonADHDer in my traditional marriage so Im only speaking from what I've learned and witnessed.) There are ADHDers in here, so maybe they can corroborate what Im trying to say. If you read some more about ADHD, you'll probably find a description that equates ADHD to having 50 tv or radio channels going on in your mind at once. As many other posts attest, the channels are filled with fear of failure, deep almost panicked need to hear words of approval, and each channel has equally loud volume for each task needing to be done in a given time. "Chronically overwhelmed" seems to be the reason many ADHDers don't listen well, unless they are able to focus on the speaker pointedly. It seems to be the reason others appear lazy because the need to do anything is quickly lost in the 50 channels, or they hear them all and can't decide what to do first. Watching my husband be easily overwhelmed was one of the things that tipped me off to the fact he might have adhd. Doing the dishes AND going to the post office in a day was a dramatic, stressful agenda for him.

You said your girlfriend switched meds shortly before your parting. It seems highly likely that had something to do with her decision. It may take time to know exactly how they will affect her and get the right dose.

I hope you'll continue to engage this site for the kinds of struggles we all go through. I think its been said a few times the happy couples don't usually come here, but I believe it is possible to have a great relationship when ADHD is a factor. In my case its not working out, but it doesn't mean its impossible. That said, if you read some more in here, you can see it can be a long lonely exhausting road. I don't know I would choose to marry my husband all over again if I knew what I know now. So I encourage you consider long and carefully before you continue pursuing her.

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