Getting Chores Better Distributed through the Family
It’s awful to feel as if you are the only one who is doing chores around your household – not to mention exhausting. It can also literally destroy a marriage. The resentment that builds up around household chore distribution easily seeps into all areas of the relationship. Many report here that they try to get their spouse to help out, but to no avail. I think that this area is too important to give up on, so would propose a couple of ideas for attacking this issue.
It’s important to get your spouse’s buy-in to the idea that running a household is a job that takes more than one person. I tried a lot of approaches over the years, what didn’t work for me was nagging or calls for “fairness” (too easy to write off and too likely to put your spouse on the defensive). What did finally work for me was a straightforward “I’ve tried to do all of this for years but simply can’t any more. I don’t care how we get some of this load off of my shoulders, only that we do. We’re no longer talking convenience, we’re talking survival.” And, since it really was survival for me, he listened. I also have to admit that since it was survival, I wasn't willing to take "no" for an answer. My husband didn't just jump up and suddenly start doing chores. I simply insisted that he MUST. It was then up to him to figure out HOW he would lighten my load.
In the next few posts I’ll talk about different approaches to getting others to help out. Here’s the first one:
Idea #1 – Businesslike, for the Entire Family
Chances are good that if you are feeling overburdened by chores, it’s not just your husband who isn’t helping out – it’s everyone. This approach can work for families with kids who are kindergarten age and older. It involves tracking what everyone is contributing to the success of the household, and redistributing chores as a result of your “fact finding”.
Have a family meeting to talk with your family calmly about how a household is a joint undertaking, and while you don’t expect everything to be even, you do expect that each person will contribute in a way that reflects their age and capabilities. Tell them that over the next couple of weeks you will all be working together to figure out who can do what in a way that distributes work that each person likes to do to them. To do this, you will all work together, including tracking, officially, for one to two weeks what each person is already contributing. As you set this idea up, talk about good ways to remember what each person is doing so that they get full "credit" for what they already do. Do they need to carry a small notebook? Write down notes at each meal? Talk into a Blackberry each time they do a chore to track it?
It’s a good idea to keep your language positive. For example, when setting up the idea, you might say “It takes a lot of energy to successfully run a household, and every person in that house needs to contribute to make things run smoothly. So I am asking everyone to assess what they are currently doing, and what else they could be doing to help out.” Agree to sit down at the end of every day (or perhaps right after dinner – some regular time) and make a list of what you each did during that day, and how long it took. The purpose of this exercise is to open the eyes of each member of the family. At the end of a few days they are all likely to see that one member of the household is doing 95% of the chores of making that household work. At that point, you can start to talk about items that other family members could take on. Ask for their input…what would they like to do? What would fit into their schedules the best? For example, your younger kids might agree to make their beds, pick up their laundry, hang up their towels, etc. Teens might do yard chores or laundry. Your husband might agree to empty the trash, cook, mow the lawn, whatever. You might decide that certain chores would be more fun, and less onerous, if multiple people did it together. This can include yard work, folding laundry, cooking...(In our house I run the laundry, but we all fold together - usually with some good music on. My teenage son also helps with the cooking some days.)
By involving each person in picking chores you have the highest chance of creating a "good fit". It probably doesn’t make sense to ask someone who needs to leave the house at 7am to take on a chore that takes 30 minutes first thing in the day, such as walking the dog.
As family members begin to take on more responsibility celebrate this in a general way – perhaps with a cake, etc. to make it “fun”. Kids sometimes like sticker charts to show their progress. If people aren’t following through on what they say they will do, decide with the group about what they think should be the ramifications. Kids who don’t do their chores might have to do them before going out to play, or lose sleep over privileges, for example.
The goal is to set each person up for success in the chore arena – a good matching of chore to skills, interests, and timetable plus reasonable support. So if you have a child who doesn’t know how to do laundry but wants to take it on, consider making a list of the steps and taping it up over the washer after you teach him. If your husband has trouble initiating chores that he’s agreed to, talk with him about potential reminder systems (alarms, buzzers, notes, etc). There is nothing wrong with these reminders – they should be considered “neutral” emotionally (not representative of a fault or problem). They are simply one tool in an arsenal of tools to “get things done”. Yes, one person will still be in the role of “organizer”, at least for a while, but that’s okay…because chores will get better distributed.
Tip #1. Make sure that the “ramification” for not doing a chore is that mom does it for you (“because it’s easier” or “because I couldn’t stand it any more”) That’s the wrong type of reinforcement! Pick something else that is immediate - just make sure you don't "cover" for your family.
Tip #2. If you are already in a battle with a spouse over chore completion, break down longer chores into shorter "sub" chores. This will help you (and him) see some positive progress. And, yes, ramifications for adults are okay, too. Make this part of the family discussion...then stick to what you all decide. If kids lose their rights to go out and play if they don't do their chores by a certain time, would it not be okay to suggest that dad can't go play that round of golf until his are done? (Hint: He can wake up earlier or stay up later to complete the chore on time...and if he stays up until 2:00am to get the chore done, don't give him a hard time for coming to bed late! He won't do everything the way you expect, or even the way you like...but the chore will get done.)
Tip #3. Expect that your feelings about this will get tested for a while. Since it's much easier if "mom just does it", expect that others will see if you're willing to fall back into that pattern. Resist that temptation, even if it does seem easier. Reconvene the "family court" (if you will) and talk through the issues in a business-like way. What got in the way of the chore getting done? Would there be a better time of day? Is there a skill missing? Are you overscheduled? Is this a long-term issue or a one-time issue? Do you have the wrong chore for some reason? Pretty soon, "I didn't feel like it" will sound pretty lame to everyone, not just to you.
This approach can work for families because:
- It distributes responsibility for chores, and for crafting solutions, across the entire family, taking it away from just warring spouses (where one is likely "dictating" to the other what the solution should be)
- It illuminates the dimensions of the problem through measurement and tracking
- Kids can help define what's "fair", which can go a long way towards diffusing some of the arguments over this topic
A completely different approach would be to get at least some of the chores out of the family completely, by hiring various types of help. More on that in a later post.
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One step forward......
On the advice of our couples counselor we tried a technique in our family where I made a "Task Tracker". I made a list of household chores broken down into all their parts and a way for each family member to record which task they had done. For instance, feeding the cats, feeding the dogs, refilling the water bowl were all different tasks rather than just "feed the pets". We needed this kind of detail in order to end the fights about who did what around our house. My (ADD) partner felt she did all the work and that the kids didn't do enough. I felt confident that I did the most, etc etc. I'm sure you get the picture. We kept track of tasks for a number of weeks.
Keeping track motivated my partner to do more stuff. (She denied that this was the case.) This was good in a way. She actually cleaned up the bedroom one morning before she went to work. However, it meant that our record wasn't exactly accurate. The kids loved it. Our youngest loved cleaning the litter box and writing it down in her color marker. So it was fun for the kids.
Since feeding the dogs (something my partner did religiously) didn't take quite the same amount of time or energy as grocery shopping or managing our finances and paying the bills, even though there'd be more checks on the paper, I had to find a way show this difference. So each task was given a "time". I also had to include time spent at work, because my partner claimed that she had to do less at home because she worked all day. I worked at a retail store part time and have my own business part time. Since we included her work I decided to include my work and the girls school time. We couldn't include their lessons after school because those were "voluntary", according to my partner.
I also included ways to chart large one-time tasks that my partner was likely to do. During that time period she put a cover over the chimney, as it happened. Yard work would fall into this category.
I graphed the chart and it clearly showed that I did the most work around the house by quite a margin. She, obviously, spent the most time at work. It showed that she was doing more than I thought she was, so that was quite useful. It showed her that the kids were doing more than she thought. It showed one of our daughters that she was doing the least amount of everybody and she was motivated to do more.
I thought the project was a great success. Then, when we reported back to our counselor, she actually said that the graph showed that she did the most chores. I was shocked. That's what she recalled. So we were right back where we started. And who spent all the time on that project to try to take it out of the emotional element? That was a year ago and the argument continues on.
I'm not against trying this technique again. It seems, in fact, like it could be useful. Perhaps when school starts up again.
The thing that's hard is that my partner does do things around our house. She just does things when she feels like it or gets around to it. The only thing she does on a regular consistent basis is feed the animals. She does the clean the kitchen...when she feels like it or can't stand it. She does pick up the living room...when she feels like it or can't stand it. She does snow blow the driveway...but she complains about it sometimes and/or tries to make me feel guilty that I'm not helping. I've asked her to take over one thing. I said, "Please just take care of the trash." I'd love to not have to think about the trash; not have to ask for it to be emptied because it's spilling over or the recycling falling on the floor. If she'd just stay on top of the trash. She can't seem to do it.
Anyway, when I say I do most of the work around the house she remembers all the times she has cleaned up the kitchen or picked up the living room. She doesn't think about the fact that she refuses to do the dishes at night after dinner. She doesn't clean the house on a regular basis. She doesn't pay the bills. She only occassionally does the laundry and doesn't seem able to put her laundry away because it gets so overwhelming. She rarely vacuums the living room rug that is covered with dog hair from the dogs I inherited when we got together (I Hate dog hair). To sum it up there is nothing that she does on a consistent, regular basis. She spends most evenings in her recliner and has been known to spend most weekends in her recliner watching TV. I was shocked when we got together to discover that there were people who actually did this.
As I am learning more about ADD I am coming to understand her. I get that the laundry pile is overwhelming so I can help more putting it away. She's happier and I'm happier and when I do it she gets involved and does it with me. And the more understanding I am the more inclined she is to do some of the "projects". But we still fight about it and I'm not against trying the TAsk Tracker again.
Now I need help with money. When I tell her we have no extra money to spend she doesn't get it. She spent $400 we didn't have on eating out, movies, etc and now I can't pay the bills. HELP!!!
One step forward.....
I totatally sympathies with "Cat Blue "on the household chores distribution. We haven't tried any sort of TASK TRACKER in our household. I seem to end up doing most of them, including the shopping, taking out the dog etc. All that ontop of my job, while my fiance stays at home. I have explained and showed her a few times, without much luck or result, the time that is available to me every day after subtracting from 24 hours in a day: 11 hours of work (including the time in the morning before work and to get home); 7 hours of sleep; time to do the shopping; spend some time with our son; taking out the dog, etc. There isn't much left! We have had several argues and discussions on the subject, without any result. She says she forgets, is overwhelmed, too tired or lacks the engergy to do these things. Or she just snapps at me and finds me fussy (niggling). And of course the "I have ADHD" answer. It seems that the best way yet, to get her involved, is by asking her to help me do the chores. Sometimes she manages to do certain things but that usually means that I have to first ask her (and be careful to do it in a gentle way), then I have to remind her (e.g. by putting it into a reminder in her mobile) and often also to remind her by calling her. The "taking out the trash" chore seems to be an impossible task, eventhough it is only like 10 steps out of the front door. Instead, the bags of trash just pile up on the kitchen floor, maybe 3 or 4 bags! I admit that there are times that are better than others, in regard to her involvment. But most of the time, I'm carrying the main burden - which is getting very tiresom.
In the past we have had a big communication problems (it has gotten a bit better though). We seem to be specialists in upsetting each other, eventhough we really try to choose our words carefully in order not to upset the other one. But when she gets upset I have often gotten the reply from her, that she is obviously a total looser in my opinion - incabable of doing anything. The conversations have often ended with her saying "So why on earth are you with me, if I'm so impossible in every aspect?". For me, this is a way of trying to make me feel bad. A way to end the discussion without any result, without taking any responsibility. A way to make sure,that things stay unchanged. And it kind of contains an "underlying threat".
Whether it is a around household chores or something else that has to be done I feel that she tries to move all responsibility from her - to me or someone else. To make sure, that she doesn't carry any responsibility. To make me or someone else accountable. And it sometimes seems that, if I forget to do something or am unable to because of the lengthy list of things I have to accommodate in my every day routine, she seems to really get something out of letting me know, how I've failed to do what she has asked me to do.
I've been trying to get the point across, that we are both responsible for the houshold chores. That we don't have to have a 50 - 50 responsibility but that we have to reach an agreement and stick by it. I'm aiming at trying to set up some sort of a schedule in the fall for dividing responsibility. Hopefully she will be willing to take part in that and see some positives in it.
Regarding finances, I'm finally gonna have to take them over. Our kredit has risen quite a lot in the past few months and she seems to turn up with kredit card bills for around $ 1500 - 2000, every month for consumption!!
Regarding clothes and dirty laundry, that is also an issue I'm gonna try to adress with her. It is just so tiresome to be walking over clother, lying on the floor, all over the flat - mixed up with dirty laundry that doesn't seem to find it's way into the laundry basket!
consistency & daily tasks
Hi CatBlue
If you change those last the pronoun on those last 3 paragraphs from "she" to "he" I could have written them (not as well as you). Except , the tasks are different.
I constantly find nails, screwdrivers in the playroom and on several occasions a plugged in power drill in the kids' (ages 4 & 6) bathroom.
Impulsive spending!
One step foward,
if she's acting childish with family funds then you have to treat her like a child, no plastic, limited funds in envelopes given out on a daily basis
Distributing chores around the family
We have implemented a chore distribution system in our house and it has worked well.. My husband has ADHD and at times gets overwelmed by all the tasks and details to keep track of on a daily-weekly basis.....One day we just sat our kids down & explained that mom and dad both work, drive kids to and from sports activities, and are overwelmed with activities and keeping a household together & we cannot come home to get dinner on the table in 30 minutes or less.
So, We developed a "chore list" posted on the refigerator by month by week by teen (We started this when they were 6-7 years old)...Each of our three kids is responsible for certain chores when they come home: One for setting the table before dinner, one clears the dishes, wipes counters & table ,one loads the dishwasher, another feeds pets.....If tasks arent completed by 6 p.m. the person who forgets the specific chore, gets to do ALL the remaining evening chores....
Its not perfect, but it does engage everyone to step up so we can have a nice family dinner each evening, rather than watch mom and dad scramble every night while the kids watch TV. To reinforce the message with a specific consequence... if one teen doesnt have the table set by 6pm, Ive been known to put just a casserole on the table, have everyone sit down, (with no place settings) and the person who forgot to set the table, gets the message pretty clearly!
We also have a weekly chore list for picking up the house, vaccuming bedrooms, baths that is done on Saturday..... There are glitches and arguments, but the practice is in place, and the kids know The routine, the drill, or what has to be done, gets done. The alternative to the chore list is that mom and dad were getting so stressed out, our kids activities and driving would stop and our kids miss out. It was "STEP UP TIME" or "CUTBACK ACTIVITIES" at our house.....
It certainly has taken stress off of us and caused everyone to realize that our family harmony is dependent on everyone collectively working together....for a common good.
Sometimes fairness becomes an issue when one teen has an activity and cant complete by 6pm, but we let them work it out, and the habits are in place....Not a perfect system, but it one we have successfully put in place & has alleviated lots of family stress for us!
Help from non ADD Spouse
Perhaps it is the fact that tonight I decided my marriage was over, but I am darn tired of all the advice that has the non ADD person making all kinds of lists for the ADD person. Having ADD does not mean you can't write! Make your own list. You remember your underwear everyday, remember to check your list. All this advice for how non ADD people can "help" just enourages enabling patterns. I am NOT my husbands mother!
Help from non-ADD spouse
To "AboutToDivorce",
Amen! Perhaps if his mother had foster some independence and less video games/tv,better nutrition, etc.. I wouldn't be in this situation.
Underwear
My husband doesn't remember to WEAR underwear! I tell him this is gross and he just doesn't care.
Making Lists for Another
I'm not suggesting that you must be the person to make the lists - perhaps your husband should be the scribe? Or one of your children if you have any and they are old enough? I'm suggesting that you should be the initiator...and also could likely use your strength as a leader to make sure the chore distribution gets done.
You are not his mother, but someone needs to initiate things that work in the family, and it's not an ADHD strong point. Furthermore, the person to initiate is often the person who cares the most. Would that be you? In any event, there is a difference in how one acts when being a mother and being a team mate or partner. Envisioning what "partner" means with a spouse with ADHD is often hard for people, but it can work - really!
The "enabler"
Boy do I feel your frustration. I am so tired of hearing what I need to do to make things better and he is allowed to use the excuse "it's my ADD" I think I may explode the next time I hear that. Can I ask how long you were/have been married and are there any children involved?
When lists, charts and counseling do not help...
Thank you everyone for your comments! It is very nice to read that I am not alone in feeling this way. My problems with my husband is finances and his refusing to help around the house/with the kids. We both work full time and have 3 kids together.
My question is what do you do when counseling, chore charts (he ignores), lists (he throws away without doing anything on them) and task tracking (he won't meet me halfway) doesn't help? I do love my husband and think he is a great person. But he simply refuses to help himself. He tells our counselor that he wants to change and wants to work on this, but as soon as we walk out of the counselor's office, it's back to life as usual. He will not stick to things and will just do a half-hearted attempt at a chore (starting laundry then leaving it in the washing machine to mold). He is really good at going to work, coming home, taking really long showers/bathroom breaks and playing online games. Where does he find the ability to religiously adhere to these activities? Why can't he project the same dedication to being a team with the housework and childrearing? He is notorious for procrastinating and has dug huge debts and collections because of his lack of motivation. He is constantly making new messes and crisis for me to clean up. If I ignore the problems they begin to affect our family in a really bad way emotionally, financially and in regards to health. Then if I handle the problems, I resent the very air that he breathes and want nothing to do with him.
I've written letters to him, talked to him, cried, screamed and wished myself far far away. The counselor has talked him through his ADHD. She recommended all the things we've tried and he won't committ to. He is always ready with apologies and empty promises when I reach the breaking point. I am sick of trying to work on this and always failing to get through to him. I have very little respect left for him which is dangerous for relationships.
Is divorce the only option? I don't want to do this because of our kids. Does anyone have a magic wand that will make him less like a lazy child and more like the man he portrayed when we married??? :)Throw your input at me please. Just please don't tell me to make lists, charts etc. Thanks!
Rooms are getting smaller
I sympathize with all the very tires spouses who are asking for help, making lists, and trying to refrain from nagging, but now I have a new issue.
Since retiring from the military reserves 3 years ago, my husband is now home on weekends and is committed to helping around the house and with the kids since I took a more demanding job at the time he retired.
It is a nightmare.
Picking up a stray coffee cup may involve moving it to six different locations in the living room, before dropping it and breaking it on the kitchen floor. When he picks up newspapers and toys in the living room, he stuffs them into corners "out of sight." When he cleans up in the kitchen the recyclables are meticulously clean, but the dishes are put away filthy. He helps with laundry and consequently the family room looks like a clothes bomb went off. It takes me hours to re-straighten up the new mess and he still wants recognition for cleaning up.
I know it hurts his feelings when I criticize what he's done, or redo it totally, but I can't function any more. I had a system in place and could accomplish five times the housework in the same amount of time I am cleaning up after his efforts. I spend more and more time at the office where I don't have to face the nightmare.
The worst thing is that the kids are picking up his habits. He is constantly at the computer, tv, or listening to ipod. When they haven't done what he tells them to, he turns on them in a rage. (mostly it is that they are interrupting his hyper focus on electronics) Then he doesn't understand why they won't stop playing wii. I need a referee shirt most of the time. Add to this that we are trying to parent a 13 year old boy with ADD who is getting random orders barked at him. Since I built all the relationships with his teachers, they really wonder what is going on and when I'm going to get it together. Did I mention I am in a rather public role in the community and don't feel like I can entertain at home because I never know what to expect.
Instead of helping, he is fussing with things all over the house and never getting anything done!
Where do I start?
I sympathize with your situation!!
How terrible for you both. He wants to do a good thing and you appreciate his desire to help, yet the result is terrible.
I have no idea how to help or what to suggest, so I asked my ADD husband to read your post. He giggled at some of it and shook his head in sadness the rest of it because he can understand how his *helping* is not working for you and yet he understand how proud he is of trying to help.
His first question to me was did he understand correctly that you would actually be better off without his help. I said that is what I got from the post, so his first suggestion was to find something for him to do on the weekends....coach Little League, Volunteer at the Y, etc.
As far as trying to get him to help in a way that would benefit you more, his suggestion was to say "Honey, I've found the easiest way to do this job is to do it this way. I appreciate your helping out and it would help me the very most if you did it this way." His other suggestion was to put it off somewhat onto the kids...."Honey, I appreciate very much that you are helping so much at home. The kids are used to this being done this way and that is how I am trying to train them to do it. It would be a good example for them if we all did it the same way. Would you be willing to try that?"
I hope at least it helps to know that we sympathize with your situation, and I sincerely hope you can find a good solution for both of you.