ADHD & Personality Disorders
Submitted by Distressed on Tue, 07/08/2008 - 01:12
My husband has severe ADD, he takes focalin and suffers all the traditional ADD symptoms, additionally he has a deep sense of sadness, feels worthless and masks his lack of joy with either a funny, upbeat, loud, annoying, or know it all personality. Shortly after our baby was born 2 years ago he began to display anger when our baby cried and his lack of self esteem really began to show through, only to me, not to others. He never complained about anything in our marriage and then all of a sudden declared he was unhappy and moving out, I begged him to finally see a therapist, something I've been asking him to do for years, he sees a psychiatrist but all he does is refill the focalin. A month later he moved out and I discovered a 6 month long affair with a girl he introduced me to. I of course filed for a divorce. The girl he had the affair with quickly stopped speaking to him and his world crashed around him. Suddenly, he realized he was all alone and had ruined his life and all that he loved but felt it is what he deserves as he is worth nothing and deserves nothing. I believe he has very strong traits of borderline personality disorder and some of narcissistic personality disorder. His therapist has told him he has a spending addiction (no doubt about that) and a sex addition. I find it hard to be angry at him anymore given all of this, I just feel sad and hope he can get help so he can be the father his baby deserves. He has even started to hurt himself, cutting himself and hitting himself. He tells me that his therapist agrees that he has traits of both BPD and NPD but says that he doesn't have the full blown personality disorders but rather the traits are caused by both the child abuse and abandonment from his childhood coupled with his ADD. He says he has a dark, deep, blackened hole in his soul from where the love of his parents should be, and it seems nothing can fill it, but he continually tries with all the destructive behavior. He says that the therapist has suggested that perhaps these disorders don't exist but rather feels they are all just symptoms of severe ADD. I'm just wondering if you have heard that such is the case as well? And is it possible to recover from this, not cure the ADD, but at some point not feel totally worthless and that you deserve nothing and stop engaging in such self destructive behavior? I'm very concerned for my husband and want my baby to have a father she can have a meaningful relationship with.



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by Anonymous - 10/23/2008 - 08:28
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by Attheend - 05/01/2009 - 11:30
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by newfdogswife - 05/02/2009 - 13:38
My husband has full blown ADHD, he takes ritalin, lexapro, librium and wellbutrin and is fighting with depression, also. Was diagnosed about 2 years ago, he is 52. He also tries to mask his lack of joy with a loud, annoying, know it all personality. My husband used to scream and yell at me when our daughter was a baby and she would cry, by saying hurtful things like "can't you shut that kid up". I remember it so vividly and wondering what was wrong with him and after many outbursts like that, I knew I would be caring for my child alone. It turned out exactly like that and now he has a very strained relationship with our daughter. My husband never complained about anything in our marriage either. Of course, because I was pretty much taking care of everything. But then one day he hit me with the same stuff "unhappy, doesn't think he has ever loved me, etc". My husband suffered from abandonment in his childhood, too. His father died when he was very young and his mother, who had issues of her own, kicked him to the curb when he was still a teenager. He never says anything but I think my husband has the same dark, deep, blackened hole in his soul also, from a lack of love from parents early on, through no fault of his own. He is in therapy but I can see it is going to be a long, hard journey. Good Luck to you in your situation.
borderline and narcissistic personalities
by NedHallowell - 05/18/2009 - 12:49
Hi, Dr. Ned Hallowell here. new Submitted by NedHallowell on Mon, 05/18/2009 - 11:44.Hi, Dr. Ned Hallowell here. --- I was reading some of these posts, and I wanted to comment on the issue of the personality disorders that have been mentioned, borderline personality disorder (BPD) and narcissistic personality disorder (NPD). Not knowing the individuals who are being described, I'll keep my comments general.
BPD is a severe condition, and it cannot be caused by ADD. ADD may of course co-exist, but treating the ADD will NOT cure the BPD (as treating the ADD so often does cure co-existing depression or anxiety disorders). The symptoms of BPD include rage, devaluing of loved others, substance abuse, self-injurious behaviors like cutting or making suicidal gestures, flipping from idealizing a person (such as spouse or therapist) to demonizing the same person, manipulation of others, feelings of inner emptiness, a desire to be "filled up" somehow, often extremely intelligent and creative as well as dramatic, usually a history of childhood abuse or abandonment. These individuals often require psychiatric hospitalization. They require intensive, ongoing psychotherapy by a person skilled in handling this highly volatile condition. Dialectical behavioral therapy, or DBT, is often the best therapy, sometimes in conjunction with medication. If you are married to a person with BPD, you MUST get the proper skilled professional help, for your spouse, for you, and for your family. Do not stop until you have found the full supports and professional help that you need.
Narcissistic personality disorder, or NPD, is also a highly difficult condition to live with. They are unable to love others. They see others as an extension of themselves and are unable to empathize with or give to others. The person with NPD feels an inner worthlessness. He deals with this by getting others to praise him all the time. He requires constant adulation. He can never get enough. He may get this praise through high achievement (many of our top achievers are narcissists) or through manipulation of others. He is fundamentally unable to love, either himself or anyone else (I use the male pronoun, but women can also be narcissists). He is a drain to be around, as his need for attention and ego-boosting is insatiable. If he senses that he is being in any way devalued or dissed, he becomes rageful, even dangerous. If you are married to a narcissist, you probably feel lonely in the marriage, worn out by how much emotional support you have to give and how little, if any, you get, and you probably feel afraid of the rage attacks that can come out of nowhere. Psychotherapy is indicated for the narcissist and for the spouse as well. There is help, but you absolutely cannot do it alone. You, the spouse, must find a good therapist. Often the narcissist refuses to get help, but you, the spouse must get help for yourself.
Does he really have Narcissistic Personality Disorder???
by Lulu - 06/11/2009 - 12:31
I just had a temultuous six month long relationship with someone who I thought had ADD but after doing more research I'm convinced it is really NPD (or maybe a combo of the two). Especially after reading this masterpiece of a book that 63 Amazon readers gave five stars too - "Malignant Self Love" by Sam Vaknin.
I'm in therapy now because of this experience. I thought I was a mature (49), headstrong woman and I'm flaberghasted that I was taken for this ride, swindled by his charm, reluctant to stop even with the red flags screaming. When I was four months into it I knew I wanted out then when he just vanished and stopped calling, instead of the relief I knew I'd feel, I was devastated. Probably because of the ease that he was able to throw me out of his life when I'd invested so much. There's no chance of being friends with someone so evil. I was willing to do that - I'm friends with all my ex's - but a person like this doesn't deserve that.
If you are confused whether your self centered mate, or you, has ADD or not, read this book!! It is a serious eye opener.
Lulu