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  • RSD by: Starlight123 2 months 3 weeks ago

    How do you handle ADHD partners RSD moments. My partner has very severe RSD reactions to very minor things which would not effect someone without RSD. They get very emotional, angry, mean and although the majority of the time I haven't done anything I end up having to apologise. 
     

    The episodes are getting more frequent. And I find it very difficult to cope with. They wouldn't speak to anyone else in the manner they speak to me. It's like RSD means they can behave how they like and it's ok because it's an RSD outburst. 
     

    onr minute they can be telling me how much they love me and the next they are triggered and won't speak.It's causing me a lot of hurt and upset. I understand it's RSD. But it comes out of nowhere. I try hard not to trigger them. But sometimes I just think maybe I am not the right person for them. 
     

    They can be lovely, caring and supportive and struggle with ADHD big time. But the RSD occasions are hard to handle and are very emotionally draining. 
     

    Any tips on dealing with an ADHD partners outbursts would be most appreciated. 

     

  • Ghosted and Divorced by: notanarcissist 2 months 3 weeks ago

    Hi all- I feel like I may be a rarity as I am the spouse with ADHD. Although, the more I learn the more I think perhaps we both had it. 
     

    I've been with my wife for five years. I loved her from the minute I saw her. I swear I knew I was meant to spend my life with this girl. Not in the normal adhd way but in the real way. We were long distance for a few months when she needed to take time off work due to her anxiety. I was in school and able to go where she was and help her figure it all out. I was there for her every time she needed me with her anxiety. Through periods of agoraphobia, driving all over the country to see her friends since she wouldn't fly. If she asked me for anything it was hers. That's the beauty of adhd.  My heart and love couldn't be bigger. I left love notes  and coffee when I left for work 3-4 times a week. We always talked. Went on dates. We did everything the books say to. Our only downfall was the one or two times a month we would fight we would not communicate well. I never yelled. Neither did she. But it would somehow escalate to her having a panic attack. I admit I wasn't the best communicator. I could've done better to listen and validate her. But I never wanted her to hurt. 
     

    We married in September  shortly after she began accusing me of being abusive. If I would share my experience I was gaslighting her. If I shared an emotion she felt I was mirroring her to make her go insane. She called me manipulative and controlling. Each time she did I assumed it was anxiety and the. We would apologize and I would forget it ever happened. Again that's the beauty of adhd. I'm great at forgive and forget. She was not. She let it build to resentment. 
     

    Just before Thanksgiving she left for her parents for a vacation. Then she texted me and said she wasn't coming home. Naturally I had a normal adhd meltdown calling and texting. I sent more texts than I am proud of but in my defense the rug had been pulled out from under me. It was very traumatic and I believe she had an emotional affair going on. 
     

    she never spoke to me after that. She promised therapy or to talk to me "next week" for two months. Then I found out she filed a divorce. She enacted a safety plan and blocked me on every form of communication (even linked in which seems to hurt the most). She had everyone we were friends with block me as welll. Nobody will speak to me. Everyone thinks I am abusive. I'm pretty sure she has decided im a narcissist. I'm 100% distraught. I love her more than I love myself. I love her so genuinely I cannot even wrap my mind around how this is happening. I assume it's her anxiety and paranoia. I spent months trying to figure out what I did to deserve it. I read Melissa's book and learned the experience of spouses of people with adhd and I developed so much compassion. I started therapy weekly and got two coaches. I'm hyper focused on learning about relationships so naturally I've read 39 books and listened to every relationship podcast I can find.

     

    still she is accusing me of harassing her. Now I can only communicate through the lawyer or she will file a restraining order or something. We aren't even in the same state. I never was told she was divorcing me or why. Never got a chance to fix it. Never got a chance to share my side. I'm not abusive. I am a nurse, was a teacher, a missionary. I pick up earthworms off the concrete so they don't suffer. I just can't wrap my mind around how someone could think I was abusive.  
     

    is it really that torturous being with somebody with afhd? I feel for her fear but I can't help but think there's a lot of paranoia or her own trauma mixing into this. She hasn't taken any accountability. And it seems she's told everyone I may kill her given the ghosting from everyone we know. 
     

    im so sad and scared. I feel so rejected and alone. I feel discriminated against. I wasn't diagnosed until after this all happened. Now I'm on medication. But she doesn't believe my adhd was even the problem. To her it's just a way for me to reason away the "abuse". What am I suppose to do? She won't let me share my side and I don't know how to cope. 

  • I know my ADHD-husband loves me but... by: BettyHeck 2 months 3 weeks ago

    a bit of a background: Im a non-ADHD partner here. My husband was diagnosed recently and for both of us diagnosis was a relieve more than anything else. There is a desire to work on the symptoms, with meds and coaching so its all is going in the right direction.

    BUT i have just realized that he really thinks its enough to tell me he loves me and live it at that. There are barely any compliments, ever. he is not able to tell me how he would describe me if ever asked. etc etc. I just dont know if this is an ADHD thing or something else.

  • Needing help....the space between knowing there's a problem and going nuclear by: Off the roller ... 3 months 1 day ago

    Guys, I'm looking for support and help from both nons and those with ADHD on the site. It's been a tough few days. Hurt feelings, rage, resentment and more. I know I don't want to be in a marriage like this, I deserve better....but when the DX has happened within the year and we haven't found our footing but dang, it's really taken hold, what can be done besides working on myself. 

     

    It can't be that I just have to continue like this, in a way that isn't true to me or my values, and wait for the day that he finally has some self awareness?? Yesterday had an expolsive conversation that at it's core was me needing to express a need/want/desire. And it just blew up. And I hate it. But I have to matter too. 

    My question is this: when times are like this and its tough and you know there are avenues to take, and one of the avenues is the extreme of leaving (going nuclear), how do you sift through this all?? Like do I just need to sit through and ride it out or what? I'm not really sure I want to leave or can leave at this time. I also have a son and I do have to consider him. I'm also in another country. This is my home so there is not somewhere else to go (and the laws here are in favour of the mom as long as she's in good standing).

    I havent read the books yet, but im working on Boundary boss. Finding it tough. I'm doing the work on MEand me alone. I refuse to work on a partnership that isn't a real partnership. But bringing anything up to him is jist dismissal, denial and deflection. EVERY. DAY. its just exhasting. 

    So what has everyone's process looked like? Does anyone have any advice for me? What about that space and time between you know you don't want to live like this but you aren't sure going nuclear is the right option at this time. And when we haven't even tried counselling, how does that convo work?? 

    I'm going to get Melissa's book and even if he doesn't do thr work, I'm fine to continue working on myself. But this is not something that I want to role model for my son. Its shit. And heartbreaking. And hurtful. Its hard to see past thr pain and hurt to be honest. Oh and I'm also in therapy but even then, when it's tough some days you gotta take a break

     Le sigh. 

  • On the brink of leaving him over a single incident. by: mazzystargirl 3 months 2 days ago

    Trigger warning: references to blood and bleeding.
     

    I've been with my ADHD partner for 8 years. It's been a great relationship, partly because I committed to learning about ADHD and have made adjustments. I'm a very chilled and non-confrontational person. I'm a happy and sunny type, a little shy and reserved - he is the opposite. 

    So.....I never thought I'd ever say this, but I am now seriously considering leaving my partner. I'll explain: 

    He's never been able to hold down a job for long, which isn't usually an issue because he's self employed and earnings are high, even if he only does a couple of days. However, this last few months, he hasn't wanted to work. Him being from a wealthy family, I set expectations around this - I said, what with just me being the earner, if he wanted to maintain our lifestyle, he would need to ok this with his parents as they may need to help out (they usually do without issue). 

    Here's where it started to go terribly wrong. A couple of weeks ago, he called me and asked if I needed something sending as he was away. I said I was fine and just needed some minor and inexpensive supplies. He then snapped at me, said it was always down to him to sort money out and hung up! I didn't get the chance to tell him I've been earning and working mad overtime for several months because he's decided he didn't want to work for a bit and he asked me if I'd like anything ordering! 

    Roll on a few hours later, I randomly suddenly started to hemorrhage blood. At first, I thought it was my womanly/monthly thing - it wasn't. I lost so much blood, I'd left pools and trails of it everywhere and had to call an ambulance. The floors, sofa, bed and bathroom were like a murder scene. When I was sat on the loo pouring blood and clots and trying to deal with this and panicking - he was vile and nasty to me. When I say vile - I mean like he wanted me to bleed to death there and then and he wouldnt bat an eyelid. Cold. So cold. I'd told him in a panic what was happening over text - his response - he couldn't give a sh*t and I should go sort myself out and he was sick of me. 

    My loving partner :( after all these years together....he said that? All the while, I'm bleeding all over and waiting for the ambulance (I was rushed into hospital and couldn't be stabilised in the ambulance, my body was starting to shut down). I cannot get over the trauma of him saying that to me. I just can't. I feel like I'm on the verge of tears constantly. I can't get it out of my head, the horror of what I went through and what he said to me - I just cannot get over what he said. 
     

    When he came home after I was taken away to hospital, he arrived to the blood scene and stuff the ambulance people had left behind. I think this really shook him up and he suddenly couldn't do enough for me, even cleaning up the blood (he never tidies up!) and spending several hundreds of pounds getting me gifts and new clothes. I think maybe he thought I was lying and the reality of the situation really shook him up. He apologised to me over and over, said he had an ADHD meltdown over something unrelated and trivial and I got the harsh end of the stick with it. He said he is immensely happy in our relationship and wouldn't change me for the world. I am very confused. 
     

    I can't tell you how traumatic everything was and to have the person I love the most turn on me like that. I just can't move forward with it. I feel anxious to be around him. I do not believe that he loves me - he can't?! You can't love someone and do that...? If I did that to him, I wouldn't want to live with myself. 
     

    At that time when I was going through this, my friends were piling on the support - one of my friends was minutes off jumping in his car and driving the 400 miles to accompany me. Other friends were terrified and lining up to be at the hospital, to come around and help clean up, to cook, to give me a lift home from the ward. Him: I got nothing but abuse. 

    We have gone from blissfully happy to me feeling absolutely dead inside. I am putting on a brave face and making out everything is good, but this is haunting me all the time. I'm such a reserved and quiet type, I don't deal with confrontation well anyway :( Any advice or kind words? I need 'em x thank you. 

  • Why do we try so much? by: Swedish coast 3 months 4 days ago

    Recently there's been debate on the forum on whether it's irresponsible to carry on with problem-ridden ADHD-non marriages. When it's hard, should we just end things?

    I'd like to add another perspective. Have been reading about French sociologist Eva Illouz who says women are often unhappy and emotionally unfulfilled in today's romantic relationships. This is thought to be partly because men as a group tend to use emotional distancing to excert power. I've also spoken to friends who describe a lot of anger and clashing needs in marriage. Half of marriages end in divorce, often in mid-life, at least in my country. Also, there is a lot of fighting and disharmony is all kinds of family relationships. Experts say it's because with those closest to us, we tend to express those sides of ourselves that we are least proud of.

    So I'm wondering how, in challenged ADHD-non marriages, we are to know that our struggles are on a whole other scale? We're expecting living with someone to be hard. Every family is pretty impenetrable from the outside, so it's not easy to compare hardships or understand how other people's partners function. Some of us weren't aware ADHD existed. Or had no idea it was the reason for our partner's difficulties, depression, anxiety and tantrums. I also wonder whether ADHD is hugely underdiagnosed. Otherwise, why would so many women I describe the misery of marriage to untreated severe ADHD to, shrug and say: That's me and my husband exactly.

    At this point, I'm amazed that any couple can stick it out for any period of time.

    I feel, however, that the love issue is very complex. My feelings about my ex-husband reach over the entire spectrum and are simultaneously true, even if they show up one at a time. Still wish I could by sheer creativity have shoehorned my stressed out self and that incomprehensible mind of his into being the happy couple we once were. 

    Eva Illouz also claims she doesn't believe in therapy, because our discomfort is due to structural problems in society rather than something individual that we can work to change.

    If we even do change. I have this feeling I will never understand anything about the ADHD universe, and it's not for not trying. And ADHDers rarely seem to enter my universe.

    I feel very humble in this. Why do we try so hard to save the relationship and the family? How should we protect ourselves when integrity is lost so gradually, so inexplicably? It's rather like being a frog in a kettle. How to defend ourselves when everyone around, family and friends, like the ADHD spouse and don't acknowledge our cries for help? We might do what I did and think the threat was outside the nuclear family. Work demands, difficult relatives, stressful society. But the reason I almost caved with stress was him.

    I'd be interested to hear your views on staying or breaking up.

     

     

     

     

  • Knowing whether to stay or go... by: mlcrenovator 3 months 5 days ago

    I'm currently in a marriage of ten years that has been gradually going downhill for the past 8 years.  My wife and I got together when we both had young kids from previous marriages, and I feel like we did a great job of raising a stepfamily despite all of those challenges that come with being a stepfamily. Now, two of our three kids are off in college and the youngest (my stepson) is 16.  So, he hardly needs (or wants) our continual attention, but he does need care like any kid. 

    One thing I have noticed is that, now that most of our kids have left home, there really isn't much of a connection or shared goals between the two of us.  Maybe there never was a connection beyond the intense courtship phase other than our kids.  Our life has been scattered and disorganized for as long as I can remember.  My wife mentioned that she had been diagnosed with ADHD as a child, but has never received treatment or expressed any interest in treatment.  Now that I have learned more about ADHD and its effects on marriage, we're a textbook case.  In addition, I've noticed that my wife has a lot of symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder and has several untreated physical ailments.  They all feed off of each other and a lot of times I feel like I am married to a black hole that eats all of my energy.  I've seen what situations like this can do to a couple because my wife's parents suffered through 50+ years of unhappy marriage due to similar conditions.  Overall, my wife is a nice person and a very accomplished researcher, but I feel like beyond that, our life is in shambles.

    Honestly, I am so exhausted at this point.  I'm not the person I want to be, and I'm not living the life I want to live.  If the only problem was ADHD, I feel like I could work through treatment and rebuild a life with my wife.  But, I'm 50 and I don't think I can commit the rest of my healthiest years to address three major challenges just to get back to a point where we both are happy.  I want to leave and I often daydream about how nice life would be on my own.  I would also feel terrible for leaving my wife because she seems a bit hopeless day-to-day.  I would love any advice you could offer.

  • Adhd partner broke up with non-adhd me…what does that say about me? by: Anonymous (not verified) 3 months 1 week ago

    This is just bizarro world. We've been together for 5 years. Been through many sessions of couples therapy and have made a lot of progress, and lately it's been all success stories. We had been really happy lately. An old conversation/issue escalated in the last week - and I will admit that the peak of the escalation was my fault - but that was it for him. With all the compromises and accommodations I've made in our relationship for rsd, negative adhd behaviors, all the disrespectful mistakes made in the name of adhd, all the room I've left for being imperfect and still lovable. I've made two mistakes in the last 5 years, one recently, and he has made at least two dozen extremely hurtful ones in that time, and the compassion and forgiveness I get is basically nothing. It was like a light switch. We were doing really well, made so much progress, and an unresolved issue came up, and now it's my fault for addressing it. I didn't address it in the way I should have, I admit that. But it's like I'm expected to be perfect in this partnership, give everything, and also expected to give him all the forgiveness in the world for his behavior. There has been no reaching across the table and loving me through hard times. I don't understand. I'm very confused. I've tried so hard for him and would continue to fight for our relationship if he was willing. But he says it's too much effort to be mindful in the relationship and he'll never be the partner I'm looking for. Despite the adhd complications in our relationship, he is such a beautiful person and I've loved him more than I've loved anyone else in my life. I feel so unloved and unwanted and rejected - and also so unappreciated for everything I've given and sacrificed through our relationship. One day I'm sure I will realize this is for the better. But at the moment, I'm just so hurt. I feel like he doesn't even care. 

  • Anti ADHD !? by: eclectica 3 months 1 week ago

    I'm reading a lot of comments on here which hit someone with ADHD really hard.

    I'm beginning to realize after 25 years of marriage that I should never have got married because I cannot consistently meet non-ADHD expectataions.

    I'm becoming ever disillusioned by romantic love and beginning to think that being vulnerable and expressing who I am is not possible in a relationship.because someone is always going to judge, criticise, verbally abuse, derrogate, and destroy my self esteem. Just a warped extension of childhood abuse and being bullied at school.

    I know I'm a mess, every surface covered with stuff piled upon piles. Sometimes I have motivation to do something, sometimes not - but I never know when; but I guess I'm not allowed.to be that disorganized. I have moments where I can tidy up stuff and be on top of things. I'm in impressed by anyone who can maintain that kind of approach consistently, just like being impressed by NASA scientists and complex differential equations and atomic physics.

    There must be a place for me where I can be appreciated and not ultimately be yelled at for not meeting another's anathema expections. Just haven't found it yet I guess. Beginning to wonder if I ever will. Always been a bit of an independent loner, probably just messed up my wife's life by not meeting her expectations. Suicide crosses my mind when I've been at the end of long verbal attack tirades of derrogative judgements. Often I'll slip into dissociation and paralysing freeze - which do nothing to ease relationship tensions. Trying to work through these outdated childhood based coping mechanisms but it catches me sometimes.

    Apparently I'm not allowed to find it difficult to do things anymore, and am always to blame if I forget something. If she forgets something, no problem, it's ok. Same when I'm late.

    Doing my best is no longer enough too apparently - as I was told at the end of a angry personal attack rant recently.

    Don't really know what to do anymore. I seem to be ever more up and down in extreme. Getting things done can be virtually impossible sometimes because just WTF is the point - because someone is going to tell you that it was the 'wrong thing' to be doing and there were so many other 'pressing things' to be done.

    Super difficult to live up to the expectations to a perhaps pathological 'doing' based person who cannot stop because it is 'too painful to face the silence of stopping' - her phrase.

    I'm not sure how to show up anymore, every which way is wrong, so I'm losing/(lost) faith/hope completely for a marriage of true connection, vulnerability and love. Walking on eggshells trying desperately to work out what she is expecting to be done is so exhausting. If I ask, I should have known - it was apparently obvious - so another verbal attack ensues.

    She does a lot of the thinking, I appreciate that it is exhausting, but dare not now show how grateful I am, because it backfires into another verbal tirade of 'should have'/'lazy'/'useless'/'stupid'.

    Perhaps there is no where to turn, except out of the door and live alone. :(

    E.

  • Get crazy by: dalanak 3 months 2 weeks ago

    My husband has ADHD.  Yesterday it turned out again that he forgot to turn off the auto-renewal of the unnecessary service, and a sum of money was deducted from us just like that.  Because it ignores warning messages.  I was on nerves all day yesterday.  Today I was involved in a traffic accident.  And it turned out that my husband mixed up the dates and we don’t have car insurance for this week.  We'll have to pay for the repairs yourself.  This has been going on for many years.  He doesn't exercise, he doesn't meditate, he doesn't take any obvious steps to work with his ADHD.  At the same time, he says at every trouble - I have ADHD.  Leave me alone.  You don't understand how hard it is for me.

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